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Post by seffy on Jul 7, 2006 13:44:00 GMT -5
What does Loch Ness and Lake Okanagan have in common? Answer: they both have their own lake monsters. What is the mysterious Nessie that lives in the famous Highland loch in Scotland? What is Ogopogo and his cousin in Lake Manitoba, Manipogo? Could they really be throwbacks to the Dinosaurs, creatures lost in time? Discuss.
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Post by Major Gmed on Jul 10, 2006 13:49:53 GMT -5
As a Scottish lass I have to have my say in this one, our tourist industry depends on it.
I'm unsure about the other lakes mentioned, as I don't know the geographical layout of each of them, so I can only talk about Loch Ness and its inhabitant, dear lovable shy Nessie. It becomes difficult to discuss this topic as so much hoax evidence has been produced that any serious discussion is laughed at instantly. So instead lets look at the facts, and then make a reasonable conclusion.
The sightings began in October 1871, and have continued to this day, and have been reported by people from different walks of life includin policemen, ministers, Sirs, as well as ordinary members of the public.
I believe the geographical layout of the loch may hold the key to why these sightings has continued for so long. The loch was once connected to the ocean before seismic activity caused it to become an independent water basin, therefore it is reasonable to conclude the possibility that at least one of these creatures (possibly a pregnant female) became stranded within the newly developed loch. It also consists of several underwater caverns which through recent sonar exploration have been shown to be more widespread than first thought. Therefore it is conceivable for any creature(s) to remain hidden from detection from scans indefinitely.
So to sum it up, although there is very little physical evidence other than a few sonar images and photos, the testimonies of so many people, and the geographical layout of the loch, it is reasonable to assume that the possibility of a creature within its depths is actually quite real. However, until Nessie decides to make a major appearance then we will never know for certain.
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Post by Tyual on Jul 11, 2006 2:34:21 GMT -5
The one that gets me about that, Major, is the question: What is it's life span? Would it really live that long? I mean, that woudl put it at around 135 years old, at least. That's just since sightings? Also, what would it feed on? The food supply would run out eventually, assuming it ate other fish. If it lived on algee, it'd be fine I suppose.
And if it was a pregnant mother, then why would only one lock ness monster be seen, as opposed to multiple ones? It would've had the child/children, right?
I dunno, just some things that crossed my mind about it...
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Post by Major Gmed on Jul 11, 2006 10:21:44 GMT -5
The one that gets me about that, Major, is the question: What is it's life span? Would it really live that long? I mean, that woudl put it at around 135 years old, at least. That's just since sightings? Also, what would it feed on? The food supply would run out eventually, assuming it ate other fish. If it lived on algee, it'd be fine I suppose. And if it was a pregnant mother, then why would only one lock ness monster be seen, as opposed to multiple ones? It would've had the child/children, right? I dunno, just some things that crossed my mind about it... The lifespan of some marine animals is over 100 years, so it is possible that it is the same nessie that is being seen. However, even if there is/was more than one creature, some of the sightings would implicate more than one creature, but also a possibility exists that we are now on to possibly a second or third generation of creature. Until we get clearer photgraphical evidence, this is hard to determine accurately. As for the food supply, there are still access tunnels leading to the ocean which are considered large enough to allow fish to enter the Loch, but to small for humans or even Nessie to pass through. Hope this clarifies your queries.
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Post by Tyual on Jul 11, 2006 13:46:43 GMT -5
Yes it does. I thought it was now completley cut off from the ocean based on what you had said earlier. That does help alot.
I don't care much for biology, actually of all the science classes I've had it was probably the only one I didn't like. A good teacher would've helped....so yeah I don't know much of anything about marine biology or their lifespans.
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Post by seffy on Jul 11, 2006 18:25:32 GMT -5
Loch Ness isn't the only Scottish Loch to have a strange inhabitant. I believe Loch Morar is the home of Morag, The Great Wyrm. Scotland is littered with Lochs and I often wonder if there aren't tunnels that connect some of them together as well. It's certainly feasible. It's also interesting to note that Loch Ness is only two miles wide at it's widest point, but it's some twenty four miles long and 900 feet deep at it's deepest point. Visability under the surface is restricted to less than thirty feet due to the heavy silt content..... and algae. I kid you not. I don't know if you're aware of this Ty, but one of the many witnesses to the Loch Ness Monster, lovingly refered to as Nessie, was a Saint. St. Columba was refuted to have driven Nessie away with holy words that caused the beast 'to flee as if in terror'.
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Post by Tyual on Jul 11, 2006 20:31:58 GMT -5
No I didn't. I don't know popular religious lore. Like I've heard of the story of St. George and the dragon, but don't know anything about it, lol. I don't keep with all that because I think most of it is just stories and not important to my personal religion, lol.
Eh, I don't know much about Scotland, so I don't know how their Lochs work, lol. Learn something new everyday.
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Post by wiilyr on Jul 29, 2006 1:50:26 GMT -5
As for the myth of Nessie, I'm a rather unsure what to think. I do find it possible that Nessie could exist, but I wouldn't be suprised if the whole thing was a giant hoax. But, like G said, until Nessie decides to make a big show, then we'll all just have to speculate.
I'm unfamiliar with any other lake monsters, to be honest, but then I haven't exactly taken a lot of interest in the subject.
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